Re: Workshop: Technology and Aesthetics: Motion-capture and Movement

From: m.withers (m.withers@verizon.net)
Date: 07/25/03


The following message was posted to: dance-tech

Collaboration with "self" is what Alwin Nikolais seemed to be into - doing
all the roles himself.
Maida

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>  [mailto:dance-tech@dancetechnology.org]On Behalf Of Stan Wijnans (by way
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>  Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:17 AM
>  To: Multiple recipients of dance-tech
>  Subject: [dance-tech] Re: Workshop: Technology and Aesthetics:
>  Motion-capture and Movement
>
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>  The following message was posted to: dance-tech
>
>  Hi list
>
>  The message below has brought me to a whole different issue that
>  I thought I
>  could share with you .... :
>
>  >  The following message was posted to: dance-tech
>  >
>  >>  I think most dancers must consider the issue of copyright under
>  >>  digital world.
>  >
>  >  I agree. (I'm currently working on a proposal for a dance/technology
>  >  project where we're being very careful of the IP issues arising, of
>  >  which there are several.)
>  Yes, very true ...
>
>  >  I guess I'm just a little saddened that dancers and choreographers no
>  >  longer feel that they can turn up at workshops with their own
>  >  favourite (commercial) music and work with that - and I'm saying that
>  >  as a professional sound artist and composer, where it's clearly in my
>  >  best interests that music is commissioned rather than "found."
>  >  (However, the more that choreographers develop their own personal
>  >  libraries, the more articulate they seem to be in terms of working
>  >  with composers when they get to that stage.) For public performances
>  >  and full commissions, it's clear that music should be sourced and
>  >  cleared in a professional manner.
>  I am not saddened by the fact that choreographers feel they cannot turn up
>  with their favourate CDs :-)) I feel this could be a good encouragement to
>  work with original music !
>  ( In this respect I think that the London South Bank 'Composers and
>  Choreographers Exchange' is an initiative that deserves a lot of
>  credits and
>  ofcourse this Exchange exists for a long time already ! It's a shame that
>  it's still not an accepted way of working ... due to funding or .... ?? )
>
>  This brings me to a different thought about the 'multi disciplinary' age
>  which I would like to discuss ... shouldn't collaborations in general be
>  more encouraged from the very start, i.e. between technologists,
>  choreographers, dancers, composers, visual artists etc etc ? In a strange
>  way I feel that this 'veto' to bring CD's could be a start !!
>
>  I'm sure we realise this collaboration aspect, but finding a, for example,
>  University course for people interested in a combination of arts
>  is still a
>  tough bite. ( see [dance-tech] Re: MA in dance and film/video ).
>  Not to mention Arts and Science ( computers too ! ) .... Even a
>  collaboration between the different departments in the same university
>  doesn't seem to be particularly encouraged ....
>
>  I realise there are all sort of politics involved and that only recently
>  artists emerge that are not 'specialised' in the 'classical' way ( can I
>  call it that ?). That it is possible to combine different
>  artforms and 'map'
>  different artforms and computer data in an artisticly satisfactory way.
>  Allthough 'mapping' is now a computer term, it ofcourse derives from the
>  combination of different art languages and in that respect from
>  the classic
>  artforms ( Remember for example Schoenberg and Kandinsky talking about the
>  'Rhythmical Painting' ).
>
>  Can I suggest a new artist ? The 'Mapper', mapping data from a Cognitive
>  Science and Philosophical point of view. Not a choreographer, composer,
>  visual artist etc, but the person that has a general overview of
>  the art-art
>  and art-technology combinations in performances. But not like a 'Big
>  Brother' !! More like an almost natural 'messenger' between the
>  collaborators .... and I consider the computer to be a collaborator here !
>  Sounds like mapping a neural network .... that would eliminate the 'Big
>  Brother' and all human politics :-)) ?
>
>  Sorry, I'm just brainstorming about collaborations ... anybody
>  has a comment
>  on my thoughts if I have made myself clear, maybe I should be on a
>  Artificial Intelligence list :-)) ??
>  Much appreciated !
>
>  Cheers, Stan
>
>  Stan Wijnans
>  - Interactive performances
>  - sensor development
>  - Multi media composition
>  - Sound engineer
>  07930 345 894
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