The following message was posted to: dance-tech Hi Kent, I think you've cracked it !!! Some people who want to make new dance with technology and those who will pursue new forms of technology simply for the sake of it. In Manchester, UK we have had various dancetech companies visit us. On the occasion the software breaks down we are left with a frozen image and people dancing in front of it who we can watch , when this happens with tech reliant based work, we are left sometimes with nothing of interest to look at. "Without the dance there is nothing." Quote Kema T. Ekpei 2004 Another point is the use of language used in the list, I consider myself to have a good grasp of English and educated to a high level, yet I have difficulties understanding points made, if points are being made. For our non first language English users, some posts here must be indecipherable. This is from Johannes: I don't understand what the last sentence means, I know about the relevance of Judson in dance terms but what are you saying? It occurred to me, during the recent NOTTdance Festival in Nottingham, which featured some of the most well-known Konzepttanz people (Jérôme Bel, Xavier LeRoy, Willi Dorner), installations, film, story telling, work in progress, rehearsals, and one choreography (by Déjà Donné), hilariously, the festival indeed featured not-dance and not-choreography, however excitingly and engagingly (sometimes) decorated, { with the conceptualist and deconstructive self-reflexive philosophies of current retro-Judson refusals to dance....} There has been calls for critiques in the list; by critique do we mean review or critique. For example Matt after Isabel: [perhaps we are missing not the artist/s but the critical theorist (our sally banes) who will not only subject the dance tech works to critical evaluation but develop a theory based on the properties of the works rather than individual authors desire for uniqueness and general resistance to categorisation and common terminology.] Why do we need critical theorists? For example Jane Turners e-MERGE, I was involved in the initial discussions for the work, I thought blue tooth earpieces would be easier to wear for the dancers and with many blue tooth appliances available it would be easy to interface with various devices. Jane replied to Matt's comments/essay I say essay because of the bibliography. Isabel I understand critical theorists are needed in University Research departments when working on past works, BUT all the work here is newly created by living people. Instead of guessing and treating new work like a newly found Nijinsky ballet why not simply ask the choreographer for your answers. The last animation I made was called virtuasitytwo http://www.kema.org.uk/dancetech3danim.html For interest would anyone like to review or critique this work for me or pass it on to their research students, I would happy to feedback on their findings. there are three downloads http://www.kema.org.uk/virt2qt.html 2.7mb http://www.kema.org.uk/virt2qtlarge.html 8.9mb http://www.kema.org.uk/graphs/virt2win.wmv 3.8mb Does anyone else have work online that could be shared and discussed? Thanks to Johannes, Isabel, Matt, Scott, Max, Jane thanks Kema >There is a widening chasm between those of us >who want to incorporate new technologies into >primarily dance-based works, and those who are >interested in pursuing new forms, regardless of >what the resulting mix of media will be. Our >values will out, and mine are with dance. I >rarely go to the kinds of new music festivals >that others have been reporting about recently >because, even when there is movement >incorporated into the works, it never measures >up to my standard, which is the following: if >all of the technology was gone, would this >movement by these people still be compelling? >That's one guys opinion, anyway. -- Kema T. Ekpei Esq. kema@kema.org.uk www.kema.org.uk The information contained in this e-mail message is usually intended only for the person it is sent to. This message may be an extraordinarily detailed and serious document or it could just be me having a laugh. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient think yourself honoured to have received correspondence from me in error. After you have read the details of this email you may delete it at your whim, if you like. ---------------------------------------- The Dance-Tech mailing list has recently moved to a new address. To post a message, send email to dance-tech@dancetechnology.org. To unsubscribe, send email to lists@dancetechnology.org, with the words "unsubscribe dance-tech" in the message body. ----------------------------------------
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